Friday, July 28, 2006

"Shades of Change"

Interesting article about how Americans are accepting interracial marriage more often

After years of battles over immigration, affirmative action, racial
profiling and other issues, it appears that the United States is becoming a genuine melting pot. An interracial tide has transformed friendships, dating, cohabitations, marriages and adoptions in just one generation.
If the wave continues, it could begin to erode racial stereotypes and categories, as well as the rationale behind affirmative action and other broad protections for minorities.


Minnesota has been a leader in such change for decades, dating back at
least as far as the mid-20th century with the surge in the adoption of Korean children. By the year 2000, no large U.S. city anywhere other than on the intensely multiracial Pacific Coast had a higher share of multiracial children than Minneapolis


“I’m seeing a lot more interracial couples,” said Guatemala native Javier del Cid, a 32-year-old Washington bartender who has worked in restaurants for 18 years. “They’re not scared anymore. You see a Hispanic guy with a black girl, you don’t say, ‘Oh, my God!’
Only people raised before it was accepted say that.”
He should know—he said he dates mostly black women. A raft of
research supports his observations.
For example:
• In 1992, 9 percent of 18—and 19-year-olds said they were
dating someone of a different race. Ten years later, the figure was 20 percent, according to a 2005 study by sociologists Grace Kao of the University of Pennsylvania and Kara Joyner of Cornell University.
• In 1992, 9 percent of 20—to 29-year-old Americans were living
with people of different races. A decade later, that figure was 16 percent, Kao and Joyner said.
• In 1985, when asked to describe confidants with whom they’d recently discussed an important concern, 9 percent of Americans named at
least one person of a different race. These days, it’s about 15 percent,
according to Lynn Smith-Lovin of Duke University and Miller McPherson of the University of Arizona at Tucson, co-authors of the American Sociological Review article.
• In 1980, 1.3 percent of marriages in the United States were interracial, according to the Census Bureau. By 2002, that had more than doubled, to 3 percent.
• Eight percent of adoptions were interracial in 1987. By 2000, the number was 17 percent, according to Census demographer Rose

Entire Article: Shades of Change felt across America


Hood said...

while there is more interacial relationships in the states, there is more solidarity in disbelief and sin.

before when Muslims were mainly looked at as an ethnic group (black, asian, etc.) there was more solidarity from the same ethnic groups towards muslims, Islam seeming like a catalyst for social upliftment.

Nowadays, it seems that everybody could really care less, and that they are only trying to "get theirs" in this dunya, while you are wearing a sheet and telling them to be a righteous person.

I heard several comments from people in the summer about my wife and I, being of different races, but it wasnt based on our relationship, but more on the fact that we were muslims, and they "werent trying to hear that"

I saw lots of different mixes and matches of race in the summer.
One thing though that we have to ask ourselves is "Are these relationships legitimate?" I.e. are they based on Piety and Love of God, or are they people just fulfilling thier carnal desires(Zina), albeit with a new group of people, which is easier to do now becuase of the lack of social reprimand that they will get from others.

America at least, even though it may be laying down some of it barriers of social aparthied and ethnic hatred erected in the past, is at the same time erecting others in the form of reigious aparthied and moral hatred.

So now whether you are black, white, or asian, or whatever, if you do not stand for the values or lack thereof that I do, then do not expect my support or kind words.

that was my impression this past summer.

Tariq Nelson said...

Good points Hood,

My point here was to highlight that while they are moving in a positive direction on racial relations, we as Muslims sadly seem to be moving in the opposite direction. We make ourselves believe that there is no racism amongst us, but nothing is further from the truth.

In fact many converts never experience extreme racism until they become Muslim. A friend of mine was slapped like a slave by a Saudi in Saudi Arabia after trying to advise him, because that person apparently thought he was an African and therefore had a right to slap him.

Point? I wish that we could move in the same direction

Tariq Nelson said...

On the above, I meant that I wish we sould move in the same direction on race and tribal relations

Obviously not on disbelief and sin

Hood said...

Youre right about the "race realization" coming about when you go to a muslim country.

the problem with Muslims in America is two-fold:
firstly, many immigrants cling on to the racist and classist nature of their respective socities after coming to the states, and because their Islam is one of culture more than one of morals/belief or legal tradition.

whats worse is that even the general islamic culture shared by the majority of muslims deteriorates, and we are left with a group of people that believe their psuedo-Islamic (in the sense of influence not in the sense of orthodoxy) sub-culture is THE islamic standard in all dealings big and small.
The result: what we see nowadays.

Secondly, many american muslims cock the same attitude, and because of being made to feel (or feeling that way just because) they are islamically inferior as regards islamic knowledge, they begin to perpetuate the same attitudes shown to them by thier immigrant brethren, developing an "american" islamic culture that is no more orthodox or grounded in Islam than that which they were being called to embrace. (I would site here Dr.Jackson's book on the subject, but someone has my copy right now.)

And thus Muslims, instead of getting over the humps that impede them, they then impede themselves by relegating themselves and their Islam to a method of aquisition and impartation that, although valid in some instances, fastly deteriorates as it is one based neither on principle, regiment, nor inner-reaching faith.

This is on the large scale. most movements/groups/idealogies are guilty of the same.

one problem that we have as americans is expecting everyone to act as we do, otherwise they are not acting correctly. this being a problem found in us before Islam, it has now spilled over into islamic practice as well.

on the large scale: we expect everyone to operate on the racial overtones that we do in the states, and when they dont we accuse them of racism. now this is a tricky area because many issues of class are directly related to issues of race in the 3rd world (I think abdulhalim posted something about this before) so we are on a thin rope as to determining which one it is.

on the small scale: when a person of another race or class feels affinity to the beliefs or ideals of a particular group, he is often made to feel that he must act like that group of people as well, otherwise he is not really down with the program. Thus you find many people will claim a life they never lived, or glamourize aspects of thier previous life, all to fit in. I dont think that this is specific to Muslims, and would like to hear from any of the brothers or sisters that have studied sociology or other social sciences and thier feelings on this.